Aeon said previously:
Yeah. I may have 3-4 hours on DoS. The reason Carter accepted my app was because he knows me. We joined PG on the same day and have been friends since. He knows my character, and thinks I'm ready for this position since PG clearly doesn't give a fuck about anyone applying for staff. Unless you're in good with the higher ups. It's not biased, it's facts. According to you, just because we're friends (which should make his decision to accept me mean even MORE because he actually KNOWS me) he accepted me and is completely biased and I am unfit for this position. But if that is true, then I'm sure the owners have some explaining to do. Breeze(Whom I love and without a doubt has proven himself and deserves his position), I'm sure was given his position as Head GM because the owner/s knew him from PG. Regardless of whether he deserves it because of his actions on PG, that was a completely biased move by the owners. According to your theory, that is.
From the moment I joined, I have seen nothing but disrespect from the community toward the Staff Manager and Owners. As far as I'm concerned, they can do whatever the flying fuck they want. They run the server, they make the big boy decisions. You all can voice your opinions just fine, but there is a fine line between that and disrespect and harassment. Carter may not have much experience but give him a chance. The owners did, so I'm sure it was for good reasons.
Also, I haven't even gotten a chance to prove myself to you. If I show I'm unfit to be staff during my T-Mod phase, you can be damn sure Carter will deal with me in the correct way.
Aeon said previously:
Yeah. I may have 3-4 hours on DoS. The reason Carter accepted my app was because he knows me. We joined PG on the same day and have been friends since. He knows my character, and thinks I'm ready for this position since PG clearly doesn't give a fuck about anyone applying for staff. Unless you're in good with the higher ups. It's not biased, it's facts. According to you, just because we're friends (which should make his decision to accept me mean even MORE because he actually KNOWS me) he accepted me and is completely biased and I am unfit for this position. But if that is true, then I'm sure the owners have some explaining to do. Breeze(Whom I love and without a doubt has proven himself and deserves his position), I'm sure was given his position as Head GM because the owner/s knew him from PG. Regardless of whether he deserves it because of his actions on PG, that was a completely biased move by the owners. According to your theory, that is.
From the moment I joined, I have seen nothing but disrespect from the community toward the Staff Manager and Owners. As far as I'm concerned, they can do whatever the flying fuck they want. They run the server, they make the big boy decisions. You all can voice your opinions just fine, but there is a fine line between that and disrespect and harassment. Carter may not have much experience but give him a chance. The owners did, so I'm sure it was for good reasons.
Also, I haven't even gotten a chance to prove myself to you. If I show I'm unfit to be staff during my T-Mod phase, you can be damn sure Carter will deal with me in the correct way.
Bloom said previously:Aeon said previously:
Yeah. I may have 3-4 hours on DoS. The reason Carter accepted my app was because he knows me. We joined PG on the same day and have been friends since. He knows my character, and thinks I'm ready for this position since PG clearly doesn't give a fuck about anyone applying for staff. Unless you're in good with the higher ups. It's not biased, it's facts. According to you, just because we're friends (which should make his decision to accept me mean even MORE because he actually KNOWS me) he accepted me and is completely biased and I am unfit for this position. But if that is true, then I'm sure the owners have some explaining to do. Breeze(Whom I love and without a doubt has proven himself and deserves his position), I'm sure was given his position as Head GM because the owner/s knew him from PG. Regardless of whether he deserves it because of his actions on PG, that was a completely biased move by the owners. According to your theory, that is.
From the moment I joined, I have seen nothing but disrespect from the community toward the Staff Manager and Owners. As far as I'm concerned, they can do whatever the flying fuck they want. They run the server, they make the big boy decisions. You all can voice your opinions just fine, but there is a fine line between that and disrespect and harassment. Carter may not have much experience but give him a chance. The owners did, so I'm sure it was for good reasons.
Also, I haven't even gotten a chance to prove myself to you. If I show I'm unfit to be staff during my T-Mod phase, you can be damn sure Carter will deal with me in the correct way.
So uh you know, 2 hours on the server by the way, you've been on the server before, i've seen you. You haven't shown any dedication to the server whatsoever and in any way, you only joined because a staff app you made got accepted. I think this past staff application acceptance (yours) is majorly biased. Just because you've known someone on another server doesn't give you the right to get flat out accepted without showing of dedication, help towards the community, and NO TIME IN THE COMMUNITY. I believe Wolffes or Fires statement still stands, and you stating Also, I haven't even gotten a chance to prove myself to you doesn't help your position whatsoever, if you were active and actually played instead of hopping on now, you could show you're worthy, but you have nothing to back you up since you're a nobody out of nowhere.
Carterwreck said previously:
Howdy. I'm Carter, and I feel like I haven't had the opportunity to explain and defend myself. I will be addressing all the points brought up in this complaint, and try to answer them to the best of my abilities.
1. On the topic of Aeon. Aeon was a good friend from PG, and he left for the same reasons I talked about in my corruption post on them (I will send you a link incase you ever want to read it, PM me.) and he actually helped me write parts of it. I trust Aeon completely, but I also understood the bias. So I was talking to Wraith about this, and he looked at his application, and I gave him reasons why he thought he should be accepted, and he agreed, and allowed me to put him onto my team. Aeon is a completely trustworthy guy, and will help my fight against massive minging.
2. On the topic of Cera. Cera is easily the hardest worker I know, constantly putting his time and effort into everything he does, and everything he will do. He is always dedicated in his work, and as he has already shown, he is here to help the community. But for the promotion to full Mod in 1 day? Not my idea, OR my execution. That was Spryth. He said to me that after dealing with a situation, he was promoting him to Full Mod. And I could not agree more, but it was not my decision.
3. I am not going to act like I am perfect or anything of the sorts, but all I ask is for you to hear me out. I am not on often in game because I have been dealing with many situations in Discord, and have not had the time to sit down, and enjoy our server for what it is recently. I also have many IRL things going on, as I am still a teen, and I am currently involved in Driver's Education, which is 3 days a week, for 3 hours. No offense, but I just want to go to sleep, and watch YouTube after that long and stressful day. I also have my own personal problems as well, as all the stress in my life has actually made my mother schedule an appointment with our doctor to see if they can help with my depression, and anxiety. I do not like being the bad guy, believe it or not. I simply want to make this community a less mingey place, because it is something we advertise, and I am going to hold the community, and our staff to those standards. I think you all think I am some kind of hate monster who feeds off of people's obedency, and lack of a free will. I am human, with emotions and feelings of my own. I am also human in the fact that I make mistakes, and want to feel accepted. You have not given me a legitmate reason as to where this hate is coming from. My job as staff manager is to make sure that my staff are given our appropriate punishments, as well as being fair to the community. But the other part of my job is to also give them out, and deal with situations.
4. Experience can come from many places, not just with this community on the server, but also in Discord, and as well as from back on PG. Many folk here are actually from PG, Boo, Breeze, Chief, Cera, Darter, Wraith, and several others I am sure. As a community, you need to not be so segregated and keep it to yourselves, but instead open your arms to new folk hopping on. I wish we got off on a better foot, I really do, but if you just give me a chance, I believe you will like the changes coming.
Thanks, -Carter.
Fire said previously:Carterwreck said previously:
Howdy. I'm Carter, and I feel like I haven't had the opportunity to explain and defend myself. I will be addressing all the points brought up in this complaint, and try to answer them to the best of my abilities.
1. On the topic of Aeon. Aeon was a good friend from PG, and he left for the same reasons I talked about in my corruption post on them (I will send you a link incase you ever want to read it, PM me.) and he actually helped me write parts of it. I trust Aeon completely, but I also understood the bias. So I was talking to Wraith about this, and he looked at his application, and I gave him reasons why he thought he should be accepted, and he agreed, and allowed me to put him onto my team. Aeon is a completely trustworthy guy, and will help my fight against massive minging.
2. On the topic of Cera. Cera is easily the hardest worker I know, constantly putting his time and effort into everything he does, and everything he will do. He is always dedicated in his work, and as he has already shown, he is here to help the community. But for the promotion to full Mod in 1 day? Not my idea, OR my execution. That was Spryth. He said to me that after dealing with a situation, he was promoting him to Full Mod. And I could not agree more, but it was not my decision.
3. I am not going to act like I am perfect or anything of the sorts, but all I ask is for you to hear me out. I am not on often in game because I have been dealing with many situations in Discord, and have not had the time to sit down, and enjoy our server for what it is recently. I also have many IRL things going on, as I am still a teen, and I am currently involved in Driver's Education, which is 3 days a week, for 3 hours. No offense, but I just want to go to sleep, and watch YouTube after that long and stressful day. I also have my own personal problems as well, as all the stress in my life has actually made my mother schedule an appointment with our doctor to see if they can help with my depression, and anxiety. I do not like being the bad guy, believe it or not. I simply want to make this community a less mingey place, because it is something we advertise, and I am going to hold the community, and our staff to those standards. I think you all think I am some kind of hate monster who feeds off of people's obedency, and lack of a free will. I am human, with emotions and feelings of my own. I am also human in the fact that I make mistakes, and want to feel accepted. You have not given me a legitmate reason as to where this hate is coming from. My job as staff manager is to make sure that my staff are given our appropriate punishments, as well as being fair to the community. But the other part of my job is to also give them out, and deal with situations.
4. Experience can come from many places, not just with this community on the server, but also in Discord, and as well as from back on PG. Many folk here are actually from PG, Boo, Breeze, Chief, Cera, Darter, Wraith, and several others I am sure. As a community, you need to not be so segregated and keep it to yourselves, but instead open your arms to new folk hopping on. I wish we got off on a better foot, I really do, but if you just give me a chance, I believe you will like the changes coming.
Thanks, -Carter.
You manage the staff. Not the community. You may stop minging on the server from random CR's that join. Boo is the community manager if anything thats would he should be doing. You should be managing staff not minges
Carterwreck said previously:
I manage the staff, who in turn manage the community. The Community Manager's job is to let people know of changes happening to how things happen for troopers, as well as to organize events, and other things of the sorts. I deal with minges, and unruly folk.
Carterwreck said previously:
I am not on often in game because I have been dealing with many situations in Discord, and have not had the time to sit down, and enjoy our server for what it is recently. I also have many IRL things going on, as I am still a teen, and I am currently involved in Driver's Education, which is 3 days a week, for 3 hours. No offense, but I just want to go to sleep, and watch YouTube after that long and stressful day. I also have my own personal problems as well, as all the stress in my life has actually made my mother schedule an appointment with our doctor to see if they can help with my depression, and anxiety. I do not like being the bad guy, believe it or not.
Stinky said previously:Carterwreck said previously:
I am not on often in game because I have been dealing with many situations in Discord, and have not had the time to sit down, and enjoy our server for what it is recently. I also have many IRL things going on, as I am still a teen, and I am currently involved in Driver's Education, which is 3 days a week, for 3 hours. No offense, but I just want to go to sleep, and watch YouTube after that long and stressful day. I also have my own personal problems as well, as all the stress in my life has actually made my mother schedule an appointment with our doctor to see if they can help with my depression, and anxiety. I do not like being the bad guy, believe it or not.
Ok, Carter let's be honest, staff manager is honestly one of the most important ranks on the server. If all this stuff you say is true, you're merely playing the victim and in my eyes trying to make other people feel bad for you and agree with what you have to say. I don't mean this in a disrespectful tone at all but I honestly don't think you're fit to be such a high rank with such little time on the server and when you come up with a counter-argument you try to make people feel bad for you.
Fire said previously:Carterwreck said previously:
I manage the staff, who in turn manage the community. The Community Manager's job is to let people know of changes happening to how things happen for troopers, as well as to organize events, and other things of the sorts. I deal with minges, and unruly folk.
Ok, i get your logic there. You dont get thought that your job is not Minge Manager its staff manager.
2. The community manager doesnt organize events. Thats what the EP's Jobs are.
3. Why should you be staff manager, if you are not able to be on more than your are and monitor staff how are you fit? Shouldnt someone who is more able to be active have the job?
Michael Cera said previously:Fire said previously:Carterwreck said previously:
I manage the staff, who in turn manage the community. The Community Manager's job is to let people know of changes happening to how things happen for troopers, as well as to organize events, and other things of the sorts. I deal with minges, and unruly folk.
Ok, i get your logic there. You dont get thought that your job is not Minge Manager its staff manager.
2. The community manager doesnt organize events. Thats what the EP's Jobs are.
3. Why should you be staff manager, if you are not able to be on more than your are and monitor staff how are you fit? Shouldnt someone who is more able to be active have the job?
As he has stated, Carter has been busy on the Discord. He talks and manages all staff by talking to them, not by constantly watching them. If he hears a staff complaint or sees something in staff reports on the forums, that is how he deals with staff issues. He doesn't have to be on all the time.
Kermit The Frog said previously:
Solid proof | Aeon's reply even proves fire's point which is that carter is biased, Aeon states the following The reason Carter accepted my app was because he knows me. IMO this just proves his point further | in which case i have no hate for carter what so ever, but what fire is saying is true. +1
Carterwreck said previously:
Howdy. I'm Carter, and I feel like I haven't had the opportunity to explain and defend myself. I will be addressing all the points brought up in this complaint, and try to answer them to the best of my abilities.
1. On the topic of Aeon. Aeon was a good friend from PG, and he left for the same reasons I talked about in my corruption post on them (I will send you a link incase you ever want to read it, PM me.) and he actually helped me write parts of it. I trust Aeon completely, but I also understood the bias. So I was talking to Wraith about this, and he looked at his application, and I gave him reasons why he thought he should be accepted, and he agreed, and allowed me to put him onto my team. Aeon is a completely trustworthy guy, and will help my fight against massive minging.
2. On the topic of Cera. Cera is easily the hardest worker I know, constantly putting his time and effort into everything he does, and everything he will do. He is always dedicated in his work, and as he has already shown, he is here to help the community. But for the promotion to full Mod in 1 day? Not my idea, OR my execution. That was Spryth. He said to me that after dealing with a situation, he was promoting him to Full Mod. And I could not agree more, but it was not my decision.
3. I am not going to act like I am perfect or anything of the sorts, but all I ask is for you to hear me out. I am not on often in game because I have been dealing with many situations in Discord, and have not had the time to sit down, and enjoy our server for what it is recently. I also have many IRL things going on, as I am still a teen, and I am currently involved in Driver's Education, which is 3 days a week, for 3 hours. No offense, but I just want to go to sleep, and watch YouTube after that long and stressful day. I also have my own personal problems as well, as all the stress in my life has actually made my mother schedule an appointment with our doctor to see if they can help with my depression, and anxiety. I do not like being the bad guy, believe it or not. I simply want to make this community a less mingey place, because it is something we advertise, and I am going to hold the community, and our staff to those standards. I think you all think I am some kind of hate monster who feeds off of people's obedency, and lack of a free will. I am human, with emotions and feelings of my own. I am also human in the fact that I make mistakes, and want to feel accepted. You have not given me a legitmate reason as to where this hate is coming from. My job as staff manager is to make sure that my staff are given our appropriate punishments, as well as being fair to the community. But the other part of my job is to also give them out, and deal with situations.
4. Experience can come from many places, not just with this community on the server, but also in Discord, and as well as from back on PG. Many folk here are actually from PG, Boo, Breeze, Chief, Cera, Darter, Wraith, and several others I am sure. As a community, you need to not be so segregated and keep it to yourselves, but instead open your arms to new folk hopping on. I wish we got off on a better foot, I really do, but if you just give me a chance, I believe you will like the changes coming.
Thanks, -Carter.
Fire said previously:Michael Cera said previously:Fire said previously:Carterwreck said previously:
I manage the staff, who in turn manage the community. The Community Manager's job is to let people know of changes happening to how things happen for troopers, as well as to organize events, and other things of the sorts. I deal with minges, and unruly folk.
Ok, i get your logic there. You dont get thought that your job is not Minge Manager its staff manager.
2. The community manager doesnt organize events. Thats what the EP's Jobs are.
3. Why should you be staff manager, if you are not able to be on more than your are and monitor staff how are you fit? Shouldnt someone who is more able to be active have the job?
As he has stated, Carter has been busy on the Discord. He talks and manages all staff by talking to them, not by constantly watching them. If he hears a staff complaint or sees something in staff reports on the forums, that is how he deals with staff issues. He doesn't have to be on all the time.
Heres the thing. There hasnt been any staff reports on the forums until now. For carter. Not a very good sign considering hes the staff manager
Carterwreck said previously:Stinky said previously:Carterwreck said previously:
I am not on often in game because I have been dealing with many situations in Discord, and have not had the time to sit down, and enjoy our server for what it is recently. I also have many IRL things going on, as I am still a teen, and I am currently involved in Driver's Education, which is 3 days a week, for 3 hours. No offense, but I just want to go to sleep, and watch YouTube after that long and stressful day. I also have my own personal problems as well, as all the stress in my life has actually made my mother schedule an appointment with our doctor to see if they can help with my depression, and anxiety. I do not like being the bad guy, believe it or not.
Ok, Carter let's be honest, staff manager is honestly one of the most important ranks on the server. If all this stuff you say is true, you're merely playing the victim and in my eyes trying to make other people feel bad for you and agree with what you have to say. I don't mean this in a disrespectful tone at all but I honestly don't think you're fit to be such a high rank with such little time on the server and when you come up with a counter-argument you try to make people feel bad for you.
Would you like me to post a picture of my Niacin pills? It is an important roll, but when people are straight up being assholes about me banning a guy for a week for being mingy, is it so hard to see why I am stressed out?
Carterwreck said previously:Stinky said previously:Carterwreck said previously:
I am not on often in game because I have been dealing with many situations in Discord, and have not had the time to sit down, and enjoy our server for what it is recently. I also have many IRL things going on, as I am still a teen, and I am currently involved in Driver's Education, which is 3 days a week, for 3 hours. No offense, but I just want to go to sleep, and watch YouTube after that long and stressful day. I also have my own personal problems as well, as all the stress in my life has actually made my mother schedule an appointment with our doctor to see if they can help with my depression, and anxiety. I do not like being the bad guy, believe it or not.
Ok, Carter let's be honest, staff manager is honestly one of the most important ranks on the server. If all this stuff you say is true, you're merely playing the victim and in my eyes trying to make other people feel bad for you and agree with what you have to say. I don't mean this in a disrespectful tone at all but I honestly don't think you're fit to be such a high rank with such little time on the server and when you come up with a counter-argument you try to make people feel bad for you.
Would you like me to post a picture of my Niacin pills? It is an important roll, but when people are straight up being assholes about me banning a guy for a week for being mingy, is it so hard to see why I am stressed out?
Bloom said previously:
I just think it's majorly iffy with the idea of carter the staff manager being propaganda as UNBIASED, then accepting a staff of a close friend and someone he's known on PG. First off we've seen this guy on the server at least once, now twice after making a staff app showing he's just here for staff no other reason. Second, in Aeon's post about applying for staff and making quite a big list of his accomplishments sounds very cocky to me, it's him practically stating i'm big i can do it put me in. It's also funny how one of the main reasons you denied other staff is for being cocky, like purple or Katie, this shows even more bias towards certain people. Also it states in Aeons post saying, 0 hours or minutes, or seconds, in the field of being a staff member, also stating that he knows carter and carter knows him. Like Fire said accepting people into the community is what we should do, but these nobodies out of nowhere with 0 rep on the server and knows a high staff should not give him more priority over anyone else. I've Aeons staff application many times and see nothing that really stands out but the norm that everyone else says, i don't think this guy is ready to be a staff member in a community he doesn't know or hasn't experienced. I know i'm not a staff manager and should know what everything should look like, but you would want to see something more than, never been staff, i'm friends with high staff, i'm a big boy who's had a lot of big boy positions and should've been accepted as staff on PG.
Aeon said previously:Bloom said previously:Carterwreck said previously:
Howdy. I'm Carter, and I feel like I haven't had the opportunity to explain and defend myself. I will be addressing all the points brought up in this complaint, and try to answer them to the best of my abilities.
1. On the topic of Aeon. Aeon was a good friend from PG, and he left for the same reasons I talked about in my corruption post on them (I will send you a link incase you ever want to read it, PM me.) and he actually helped me write parts of it. I trust Aeon completely, but I also understood the bias. So I was talking to Wraith about this, and he looked at his application, and I gave him reasons why he thought he should be accepted, and he agreed, and allowed me to put him onto my team. Aeon is a completely trustworthy guy, and will help my fight against massive minging.
2. On the topic of Cera. Cera is easily the hardest worker I know, constantly putting his time and effort into everything he does, and everything he will do. He is always dedicated in his work, and as he has already shown, he is here to help the community. But for the promotion to full Mod in 1 day? Not my idea, OR my execution. That was Spryth. He said to me that after dealing with a situation, he was promoting him to Full Mod. And I could not agree more, but it was not my decision.
3. I am not going to act like I am perfect or anything of the sorts, but all I ask is for you to hear me out. I am not on often in game because I have been dealing with many situations in Discord, and have not had the time to sit down, and enjoy our server for what it is recently. I also have many IRL things going on, as I am still a teen, and I am currently involved in Driver's Education, which is 3 days a week, for 3 hours. No offense, but I just want to go to sleep, and watch YouTube after that long and stressful day. I also have my own personal problems as well, as all the stress in my life has actually made my mother schedule an appointment with our doctor to see if they can help with my depression, and anxiety. I do not like being the bad guy, believe it or not. I simply want to make this community a less mingey place, because it is something we advertise, and I am going to hold the community, and our staff to those standards. I think you all think I am some kind of hate monster who feeds off of people's obedency, and lack of a free will. I am human, with emotions and feelings of my own. I am also human in the fact that I make mistakes, and want to feel accepted. You have not given me a legitmate reason as to where this hate is coming from. My job as staff manager is to make sure that my staff are given our appropriate punishments, as well as being fair to the community. But the other part of my job is to also give them out, and deal with situations.
4. Experience can come from many places, not just with this community on the server, but also in Discord, and as well as from back on PG. Many folk here are actually from PG, Boo, Breeze, Chief, Cera, Darter, Wraith, and several others I am sure. As a community, you need to not be so segregated and keep it to yourselves, but instead open your arms to new folk hopping on. I wish we got off on a better foot, I really do, but if you just give me a chance, I believe you will like the changes coming.
Thanks, -Carter.
I just think it's majorly iffy with the idea of carter the staff manager being propaganda as UNBIASED, then accepting a staff of a close friend and someone he's known on PG. First off we've seen this guy on the server at least once, now twice after making a staff app showing he's just here for staff no other reason. Second, in Aeon's post about applying for staff and making quite a big list of his accomplishments sounds very cocky to me, it's him practically stating i'm big i can do it put me in. It's also funny how one of the main reasons you denied other staff is for being cocky, like purple or Katie, this shows even more bias towards certain people. Also it states in Aeons post saying, 0 hours or minutes, or seconds, in the field of being a staff member, also stating that he knows carter and carter knows him. Like Fire said accepting people into the community is what we should do, but these nobodies out of nowhere with 0 rep on the server and knows a high staff should not give him more priority over anyone else. I've Aeons staff application many times and see nothing that really stands out but the norm that everyone else says, i don't think this guy is ready to be a staff member in a community he doesn't know or hasn't experienced. I know i'm not a staff manager and should know what everything should look like, but you would want to see something more than, never been staff, i'm friends with high staff, i'm a big boy who's had a lot of big boy positions and should've been accepted as staff on PG.
I only stated my positions on PG as you would on a resume. It shows I have experience in positions similar to staff and I'm not just some normal SSGT from PG. I've done literally everything BUT staff, but I've been there almost every step of the way when my friends were staff and I've learned by watching them, so I may as well have been. I am in no way bragging, or saying I should've been accepted as staff on PG. Honestly, from the past 5 hours I've spent on the server TODAY, I've learned so much about all of you. And I understand where you're coming from, but all this drama and hate is over the top. If you have a problem, contacting an owner is the easiest thing in the world. I recommend you do it, rather than make a huge attention seeking forum post.
Carterwreck said previously:Bloom said previously:
I just think it's majorly iffy with the idea of carter the staff manager being propaganda as UNBIASED, then accepting a staff of a close friend and someone he's known on PG. First off we've seen this guy on the server at least once, now twice after making a staff app showing he's just here for staff no other reason. Second, in Aeon's post about applying for staff and making quite a big list of his accomplishments sounds very cocky to me, it's him practically stating i'm big i can do it put me in. It's also funny how one of the main reasons you denied other staff is for being cocky, like purple or Katie, this shows even more bias towards certain people. Also it states in Aeons post saying, 0 hours or minutes, or seconds, in the field of being a staff member, also stating that he knows carter and carter knows him. Like Fire said accepting people into the community is what we should do, but these nobodies out of nowhere with 0 rep on the server and knows a high staff should not give him more priority over anyone else. I've Aeons staff application many times and see nothing that really stands out but the norm that everyone else says, i don't think this guy is ready to be a staff member in a community he doesn't know or hasn't experienced. I know i'm not a staff manager and should know what everything should look like, but you would want to see something more than, never been staff, i'm friends with high staff, i'm a big boy who's had a lot of big boy positions and should've been accepted as staff on PG.
You are mixing up bias, with experience. Bias, is choosing someone over others because you feel strongly towards them. Experience is choosing someone because you know they have a capability to do a job from previous endeavours. If I was biased, I would have denied everyone's staff apps besides PG members. I simply put all staff apps on hold because our community is still growing. As any former or current staff know, having more staff than playerbase is awful. I chose Aeon and Cera not because I think they are cool, but because of my previous experiences with them, as well as knowing their personality types, I know they are to be trusted. I will absolutely accept more people's apps, once we get more folks on. I simply need to get a feel for the community to understand them better.
Carterwreck said previously:Bloom said previously:
I just think it's majorly iffy with the idea of carter the staff manager being propaganda as UNBIASED, then accepting a staff of a close friend and someone he's known on PG. First off we've seen this guy on the server at least once, now twice after making a staff app showing he's just here for staff no other reason. Second, in Aeon's post about applying for staff and making quite a big list of his accomplishments sounds very cocky to me, it's him practically stating i'm big i can do it put me in. It's also funny how one of the main reasons you denied other staff is for being cocky, like purple or Katie, this shows even more bias towards certain people. Also it states in Aeons post saying, 0 hours or minutes, or seconds, in the field of being a staff member, also stating that he knows carter and carter knows him. Like Fire said accepting people into the community is what we should do, but these nobodies out of nowhere with 0 rep on the server and knows a high staff should not give him more priority over anyone else. I've Aeons staff application many times and see nothing that really stands out but the norm that everyone else says, i don't think this guy is ready to be a staff member in a community he doesn't know or hasn't experienced. I know i'm not a staff manager and should know what everything should look like, but you would want to see something more than, never been staff, i'm friends with high staff, i'm a big boy who's had a lot of big boy positions and should've been accepted as staff on PG.
You are mixing up bias, with experience. Bias, is choosing someone over others because you feel strongly towards them. Experience is choosing someone because you know they have a capability to do a job from previous endeavours. If I was biased, I would have denied everyone's staff apps besides PG members. I simply put all staff apps on hold because our community is still growing. As any former or current staff know, having more staff than playerbase is awful. I chose Aeon and Cera not because I think they are cool, but because of my previous experiences with them, as well as knowing their personality types, I know they are to be trusted. I will absolutely accept more people's apps, once we get more folks on. I simply need to get a feel for the community to understand them better.
Carterwreck said previously:Bloom said previously:
I just think it's majorly iffy with the idea of carter the staff manager being propaganda as UNBIASED, then accepting a staff of a close friend and someone he's known on PG. First off we've seen this guy on the server at least once, now twice after making a staff app showing he's just here for staff no other reason. Second, in Aeon's post about applying for staff and making quite a big list of his accomplishments sounds very cocky to me, it's him practically stating i'm big i can do it put me in. It's also funny how one of the main reasons you denied other staff is for being cocky, like purple or Katie, this shows even more bias towards certain people. Also it states in Aeons post saying, 0 hours or minutes, or seconds, in the field of being a staff member, also stating that he knows carter and carter knows him. Like Fire said accepting people into the community is what we should do, but these nobodies out of nowhere with 0 rep on the server and knows a high staff should not give him more priority over anyone else. I've Aeons staff application many times and see nothing that really stands out but the norm that everyone else says, i don't think this guy is ready to be a staff member in a community he doesn't know or hasn't experienced. I know i'm not a staff manager and should know what everything should look like, but you would want to see something more than, never been staff, i'm friends with high staff, i'm a big boy who's had a lot of big boy positions and should've been accepted as staff on PG.
You are mixing up bias, with experience. Bias, is choosing someone over others because you feel strongly towards them. Experience is choosing someone because you know they have a capability to do a job from previous endeavours. If I was biased, I would have denied everyone's staff apps besides PG members. I simply put all staff apps on hold because our community is still growing. As any former or current staff know, having more staff than playerbase is awful. I chose Aeon and Cera not because I think they are cool, but because of my previous experiences with them, as well as knowing their personality types, I know they are to be trusted. I will absolutely accept more people's apps, once we get more folks on. I simply need to get a feel for the community to understand them better.
Fire said previously:Carterwreck said previously:Bloom said previously:
I just think it's majorly iffy with the idea of carter the staff manager being propaganda as UNBIASED, then accepting a staff of a close friend and someone he's known on PG. First off we've seen this guy on the server at least once, now twice after making a staff app showing he's just here for staff no other reason. Second, in Aeon's post about applying for staff and making quite a big list of his accomplishments sounds very cocky to me, it's him practically stating i'm big i can do it put me in. It's also funny how one of the main reasons you denied other staff is for being cocky, like purple or Katie, this shows even more bias towards certain people. Also it states in Aeons post saying, 0 hours or minutes, or seconds, in the field of being a staff member, also stating that he knows carter and carter knows him. Like Fire said accepting people into the community is what we should do, but these nobodies out of nowhere with 0 rep on the server and knows a high staff should not give him more priority over anyone else. I've Aeons staff application many times and see nothing that really stands out but the norm that everyone else says, i don't think this guy is ready to be a staff member in a community he doesn't know or hasn't experienced. I know i'm not a staff manager and should know what everything should look like, but you would want to see something more than, never been staff, i'm friends with high staff, i'm a big boy who's had a lot of big boy positions and should've been accepted as staff on PG.
You are mixing up bias, with experience. Bias, is choosing someone over others because you feel strongly towards them. Experience is choosing someone because you know they have a capability to do a job from previous endeavours. If I was biased, I would have denied everyone's staff apps besides PG members. I simply put all staff apps on hold because our community is still growing. As any former or current staff know, having more staff than playerbase is awful. I chose Aeon and Cera not because I think they are cool, but because of my previous experiences with them, as well as knowing their personality types, I know they are to be trusted. I will absolutely accept more people's apps, once we get more folks on. I simply need to get a feel for the community to understand them better.
Thats not how it works. You dont have to delete everyone's apps to be biased. You said yourself you chose them because of your previous experiences. Those previous experiences have led you to be biased towards them and choose them over others. And if you did have your Experience that you do have, you would realize its never a smart decision to accept someone who just joins a server. You reward people who have put 0 time in the server. You reward those who have dedicated themselves to the server. We didnt even have a staff shortage when you accepted cera or aeon. The staff were on everyday doing there jobs just fine, but you obiviously wouldnt know that considering you cant get on most of the time.
Aeon said previously:Jacob said previously:
Ok. First off never give staff out for knowing someone. THATS NOT HOW BEING STAFF WORKS. You become staff for having experience,time,dedication, and respect for the server, not by being friends with the manager. Second off your suppose to do more than manage the staff. your suppose to also welcome new members, be involved with the community, be involved with the server, know your staff (not just accept them and leave them to their duties), spend time with the members (even if that means be in the ooc lounge watching a 10 hour video of Justin Bieber). What i'm trying to say is I haven't seen alot of this out of the current staff manager and i +1 this post
Yeah, that's also how getting a job is in real life is supposed to be like. But its not. You get jobs in real life by knowing people. Not by your experience, time or dedication. Unless you're someone like Jamaica from PG coming to a small server to be a T-Mod. Then MAYBE your previous experience will mean something.
Zod said previously:
I chose Aeon and Cera not because I think they are cool, but because of my previous experiences with them, as well as knowing their personality types, I know they are to be trusted.
That is what exactly what bias is m8.
What everyone is trying to say is that you let these unknown people into the most important roles of our server without ANYONE knowing who they actually are besides you. If you just had waited a week or intel atleast 24+ hours on the server this would have probably never happened. We would have an idea what people we are working with here instead of random people. Also just like Bloom said aeon staff app sounds like he already knew you were going to accept him but with katie its looks like your affect of denying her app has just vanished because you accepted aeons with no regard but hers like useless trash.
I ultimately think that it was unfair and it shouldent ever happen again.
Aeon said previously:
Let's address something here. If you all think someone who has put more time into the server and dedication than Carter should have his job, WHO? Where is this person? Did anyone even want this position before Carter got it? All I'm hearing is Carter is unfit and there are better applicants but so far I've seen none. I'm sure if the owners thought there was someone better, they would've given them the position and not Carter.
Carterwreck said previously:
Experience LEADS to dedication. Also, it is very unprofessional to use foul language when dealing with business related problems. Believe it or not, Dawn of Sorrow is a business. Sure, it is under the cloak of a community, but all servers, and all communities are businesses.
Bloom said previously:Aeon said previously:
Let's address something here. If you all think someone who has put more time into the server and dedication than Carter should have his job, WHO? Where is this person? Did anyone even want this position before Carter got it? All I'm hearing is Carter is unfit and there are better applicants but so far I've seen none. I'm sure if the owners thought there was someone better, they would've given them the position and not Carter.
Let's start this off with, just because no one is raising their hands immediately is actually showing character, because if they did it would be a power play, like some people say Carters is. Also there were no applications or requests for a Staff Manager anywhere, it was only slightly talked about. I could list a few who would be certainly be more fit than carter but not going to list them for personal reasons and for there not to be a blow up. And just because you're here for 5 hours, honestly i'd say less, you don't know nothing about the server so you can't say you don't see anyone else worthy besides your friend. I think the owners chose rashly and fast for choosing a staff manager with shown nothing on the server shouldn't have been done. There should've been more trials and ways around to the answer but this is a major error.
Michael Cera said previously:Bloom said previously:Aeon said previously:
Let's address something here. If you all think someone who has put more time into the server and dedication than Carter should have his job, WHO? Where is this person? Did anyone even want this position before Carter got it? All I'm hearing is Carter is unfit and there are better applicants but so far I've seen none. I'm sure if the owners thought there was someone better, they would've given them the position and not Carter.
Let's start this off with, just because no one is raising their hands immediately is actually showing character, because if they did it would be a power play, like some people say Carters is. Also there were no applications or requests for a Staff Manager anywhere, it was only slightly talked about. I could list a few who would be certainly be more fit than carter but not going to list them for personal reasons and for there not to be a blow up. And just because you're here for 5 hours, honestly i'd say less, you don't know nothing about the server so you can't say you don't see anyone else worthy besides your friend. I think the owners chose rashly and fast for choosing a staff manager with shown nothing on the server shouldn't have been done. There should've been more trials and ways around to the answer but this is a major error.
The owners chose Carter as a staff manager because of what they saw in him, not what he was. He is a human along with the rest of us, and makes mistakes just like all of us. They saw potential with what he could do with the server, and so far, he has had nothing bad about him, other than people causing drama with him because of the choices he was given the role to make by the OWNERS.
Michael Cera said previously:Bloom said previously:Aeon said previously:
Let's address something here. If you all think someone who has put more time into the server and dedication than Carter should have his job, WHO? Where is this person? Did anyone even want this position before Carter got it? All I'm hearing is Carter is unfit and there are better applicants but so far I've seen none. I'm sure if the owners thought there was someone better, they would've given them the position and not Carter.
Let's start this off with, just because no one is raising their hands immediately is actually showing character, because if they did it would be a power play, like some people say Carters is. Also there were no applications or requests for a Staff Manager anywhere, it was only slightly talked about. I could list a few who would be certainly be more fit than carter but not going to list them for personal reasons and for there not to be a blow up. And just because you're here for 5 hours, honestly i'd say less, you don't know nothing about the server so you can't say you don't see anyone else worthy besides your friend. I think the owners chose rashly and fast for choosing a staff manager with shown nothing on the server shouldn't have been done. There should've been more trials and ways around to the answer but this is a major error.
The owners chose Carter as a staff manager because of what they saw in him, not what he was. He is a human along with the rest of us, and makes mistakes just like all of us. They saw potential with what he could do with the server, and so far, he has had nothing bad about him, other than people causing drama with him because of the choices he was given the role to make by the OWNERS.
Fire said previously:Carterwreck said previously:
Experience LEADS to dedication. Also, it is very unprofessional to use foul language when dealing with business related problems. Believe it or not, Dawn of Sorrow is a business. Sure, it is under the cloak of a community, but all servers, and all communities are businesses.
This isnt about business, dont go trying to change the subject. The subject is you being unfit for your role as Staff manager. You cant get around your skull that dedication is getting on the server everyday and enjoying it, as i and countless others have done. Your Experience card here is what is pissing the whole community off. People play on this server everyday such as Rex and Bloom. They dedicate their time and effort to the server; and you see it as your god given fucking right to come in here and be staff manager because you have Experience.
Carterwreck said previously:
I set my mind to fixing a problem, and I did. You are upset I solved a problem, because you may be possibly part of the problem. I came here to solve the minging problem, and I will stick to it. Sure, I brought people on to help me, but that doesn't mean I didn't do it without other high staff's approval. This whole thing would have not happened if I did not ban Hilton. He broke rules, so he was punished. But like I said, I am not an idiot. Aeon is going to be removed from staff.
Carterwreck said previously:
I set my mind to fixing a problem, and I did. You are upset I solved a problem, because you may be possibly part of the problem. I came here to solve the minging problem, and I will stick to it. Sure, I brought people on to help me, but that doesn't mean I didn't do it without other high staff's approval. This whole thing would have not happened if I did not ban Hilton. He broke rules, so he was punished. But like I said, I am not an idiot. Aeon is going to be removed from staff.
Bloom said previously:Michael Cera said previously:Bloom said previously:Aeon said previously:
Let's address something here. If you all think someone who has put more time into the server and dedication than Carter should have his job, WHO? Where is this person? Did anyone even want this position before Carter got it? All I'm hearing is Carter is unfit and there are better applicants but so far I've seen none. I'm sure if the owners thought there was someone better, they would've given them the position and not Carter.
Let's start this off with, just because no one is raising their hands immediately is actually showing character, because if they did it would be a power play, like some people say Carters is. Also there were no applications or requests for a Staff Manager anywhere, it was only slightly talked about. I could list a few who would be certainly be more fit than carter but not going to list them for personal reasons and for there not to be a blow up. And just because you're here for 5 hours, honestly i'd say less, you don't know nothing about the server so you can't say you don't see anyone else worthy besides your friend. I think the owners chose rashly and fast for choosing a staff manager with shown nothing on the server shouldn't have been done. There should've been more trials and ways around to the answer but this is a major error.
The owners chose Carter as a staff manager because of what they saw in him, not what he was. He is a human along with the rest of us, and makes mistakes just like all of us. They saw potential with what he could do with the server, and so far, he has had nothing bad about him, other than people causing drama with him because of the choices he was given the role to make by the OWNERS.
We know the OWNERS made the decision but the decisions he's been making afterward have shown him unfit for the position.
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